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« : 09 Ocak 2014, 19:06:16 »

Salam aleykum.
There are some brothers who speak english? my turkish is badly, I want to ask a few questions, and meet with your djamaat
Jazak Allahu hayran, assalatu assalama al'a rasulillah..
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« Yanıtla #1 : 10 Ocak 2014, 00:14:46 »

you can ask me your questions , we will so good as we can answer your questions, inseAllah .
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« Yanıtla #2 : 10 Ocak 2014, 00:49:33 »

First i want to ask a few questions about your akida, to know who r u.
So if u do not complicate..

1. What is hukm of all people that lives in islamic lands, including djihad-jamaats like jabhat an nusra and saudis sheykhs etc

2.What is hukm of man that showed self-defense on taguts courts.

3.Hukm of man that work for police,army,tagut systems,ministry,departments

4. Is there any exception by someone, place or time in a kufr or shirk akbar?

5. Is ignorance an excuse in the fundamentals of religion?

5. Hukm of man which stopped in hukms of one of them in questions 1-3

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u can answer briefly,thanks


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« Yanıtla #3 : 10 Ocak 2014, 13:55:32 »

Yetkiliden istek tükrkçe çevrilmişinide asabilirmi SORU ve CEVAP olarak .
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« Yanıtla #4 : 10 Ocak 2014, 14:13:01 »

Yetkiliden istek tükrkçe çevrilmişinide asabilirmi SORU ve CEVAP olarak .

Eğer doğru anlamak,soruların bir çeviri ihtiyacınız var? (google translate)
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« Yanıtla #5 : 11 Ocak 2014, 13:01:39 »

First i want to ask a few questions about your akida, to know who r u.
So if u do not complicate..

1. What is hukm of all people that lives in islamic lands, including djihad-jamaats like jabhat an nusra and saudis sheykhs etc

2.What is hukm of man that showed self-defense on taguts courts.

3.Hukm of man that work for police,army,tagut systems,ministry,departments

4. Is there any exception by someone, place or time in a kufr or shirk akbar?

5. Is ignorance an excuse in the fundamentals of religion?

5. Hukm of man which stopped in hukms of one of them in questions 1-3

Sorry for broken english..
u can answer briefly,thanks




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Ilk olarak sizlere akideniz hakkında birkaç soru sormak istiyorum kimler oldugunuzu ögrenmek içn, tabiki bana bunu zorlaştırmazsanız.

Soru1 : Islami ülkerlerde yaşayan  insanların ve cihad cemaatlerin, örneğin; jabhaten nusra – suud şeyhleri ve benzerlerini de içine alarak , ne hüküm veriyorsunuz ?

Soru2: Kendini savunmak  amacıyla Tağutun mahkemesine giden kişinin hükmü nedir sizce ?

Soru3 :Tağuti sistem için çalışan , polis için çalişan , devlet dairesinde çalişan , bakanlık yapan kişinin hükmü nedir sizce ?

Soru4: Büyük şirkte , herhangi bir zamanda ve herhangi bir yerde herhangi bir şahısa istisna yapılmışmıdır ?

Soru5: Islam dinin Aslında cehalet mazaret sayılır mı ?

Soru6:  Soru 1 ile 3 arasında meslelerde duraklayan kişinin hükmü nedir sizce ?


Kısaca cevaplar verebilirsinz ve bozuk ingilizcem için sizden özür diliyorum.



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« Yanıtla #6 : 01 Şubat 2014, 21:57:25 »

Soru;Ilk olarak sizlere akideniz hakkinda birkac soru sormak istiyorum kimler oldugunuzu ögrenmek icin, tabiki bana bunu zorlastirmazsaniz.Soru1 : Islami ülkerlerde yasayan  insanlarin ve cihad cemaatlerin, örnegin; jabhaten nusra – suud seyhleri ve benzerlerini de icine alarak , ne hüküm veriyorsunuz ?
 
Answer: we are going to address your questions in brief and present Islamic rulings and the general reasons behind the rulings.  However, as this is only a brief reply we will not be fully elaborating on the details supporting the rulings.  Therefore, if there is something you did not understand or you were confused by an answer  just ask us for further clarification and we will provide an explanation with the relative evidences.
 
1: The Islamic ruling for states and countries which are not governed by the Islamic Sharia is Darul-Harb (Abode of War).   In Darul-Harb people who we don't know meaning we don't know their Islam they are given the ruling of the majority of  the people who live in Darul-Harb.  
Most of the people living in these countries are not Muslim due to the fact that these countries are not governed by the Sharia.
Individuals living in these countries who we do not know are given the ruling according to the majority of people living there and according to what is most likely (في أغلب الظن); therefore we give them the ruling of Kafir (non-Muslim). However, individuals we know are given a ruling according to the situation (their Aqeeda).  If  his Aqeeda is incorrect he will be given the ruling of Kafir but if his Aqeeda is correct his ruling is Muslim.
 
The group Jabhat-un Nusra that you have mentioned, is a group whose Aqeeda is well known.
That is to say they are not a people we are not aware of,  they are just like Ikhwan-ul Muslimeen, Salafi jamiah, Tabdeel jami’ah and so on.  The Aqeeda of these groups is very well known, they have not yet understood and implemented Tawheed into their lives. They have not yet understood and implemented the conditions of Tawheed that Allah requires from them.
 
For example, Jabhat-un Nusra is under the command of Al-Qaeda and is one of their many branches. The Aqeeda of this organisation is well known and in general terms is as follows:  they generally view the population of countries which were Islamic states before but are not now ruled by the Islamic Sharia as Muslims. They don’t make Takfeer (to give the ruling of non-Muslim) on the ones who say that the Taghut (false deities) are Muslims. Nor do they make Takfeer on the ones who submit to the courts of Taghut to get their rights. They consider that ignorance is an excuse for the population in matters of major shirk, such as taking part in democratic elections.



The Saudi scholars are tied to the Taghut, amongst them are scholars  who do not make their Aqeeda apparent. The ruling is clear for those whose Kufr and Shrik is in the open and for those whose Aqeeda is not clear we give them a ruling based on the majority.  
 
Soru2: Kendini savunmak  amaciyla Tagutun mahkemesine giden kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ?
 
Answer 2: The person who accepts the summons of a court in order to go and defend himself has submitted to the judgement of Taghut.  Only the person who makes a complaint to Taghut has not submitted to the court of Taghut. However, the one who accepts the summons of a court in order to go and defend himself has submitted to the judgement of Taghut. Conversely, if a person openly rejects the court and then rejects the claims against himself and then does not perform any actions and does not make any statements which indicates he has accepted the court then he will have not submitted to the court.

 
Soru3 :Taguti systeme icin calisan , polis icin calisan , devlet dairesinde calisan , bakanlik yapan kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ?
 

Answer 3: The person who works for the cause of  the Taghut system or who works in order that  the Taghut system obtains dominance or who works to keep the Taghut system in power is a Kafir. The police is an institute which works to protect and keep in power the system of Taghut. Whoever, works in this position does so to uphold the position of the Taghut system.  Whoever takes a role as governmental minister works for the cause of Taghut and thus also becomes a Kafir. As for those who work in the various government jobs are given a ruling according to the situation and the job they do; if the person does something which is Kufr as part of their job, then he becomes Kafir.
 
Soru4: Büyük sirkte , herhangi bir zamanda ve herhangi bir yerde herhangi bir sahisa istisna yapilmismidir ?
 
Answer 4: There is no exception or excuse for committing major Shirk.  If someone commits major Shirk and they are not under force Ikrah ( forcing someone to say or commit kufr by threatening them with their lives or similar threats) they are a Mushrik. Excuses and exceptions are not applicable to this matter.  
 
Soru5: Islam dinin Aslinda cehalet mazaret sayilir mi ?
 
Answer 5: Ignorance is not an excuse in Aslu-deen (the fundamentals of Tawheed). We have a book on this topic and I advise you to read it, the book is called ‘Ignorance is not an excuse in Shirk-ul Akbar”.
 
Soru6:  Soru 1 ile 3 arasinda meslelerde duraklayan kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ? Kisaca cevaplar verebilirsinz ve bozuk ingilizcem icin sizden özür diliyorum.
 
Answer 5: Someone who lives in Dar-ul harb and judges the people whose Aqeeda he does not know as Muslims is a kafir. However, a person who hesitates from giving a ruling, meaning neither does he say Muslim or Kafir for someone whose Aqeeda is unknown until he is able to investigate their Aqeeda is not a Kafir. Conversely someone who hesitates in giving the ruling of Kafir for the people whose kufr is obvious, such as Jabhat-un Nusra, the scholars of Saudi Arabia, Hamas Jami’ah, becomes a Kafir. Similarly, the person who hesitates to make Tekfeer on the people who work in the cause of the Taghut system is not a Muslim. This is the same ruling for the person who hesitates in making takfeer on the police and the people who have ministerial duties in the Taghut system.


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Soru;Ilk olarak sizlere akideniz hakkinda birkac soru sormak istiyorum kimler oldugunuzu ögrenmek icin, tabiki bana bunu zorlastirmazsaniz.Soru1 : Islami ülkerlerde yasayan  insanlarin ve cihad cemaatlerin, örnegin; jabhaten nusra – suud seyhleri ve benzerlerini de icine alarak , ne hüküm veriyorsunuz ?
 
Cevap; sorduğunuz soruların hükümlerini ve hükümün illetlerini genel olarak teferruatlarına sebeplerine girmeden kısa bir şekilde bildireceğiz. Eğer anlamadığınız bir şey varsa, veya şaşırdığınız bir cevap varsa sorarsınız size delilleriyle birlikte açıklarız.
 
1-İslam şeriatı ile hükmedilmeyen, İslam şeriatının hâkim olmadığı devletlerde ve ülkelerde, bu devletlerin ve bu ülkelerin İslam’da olan hükmü darul harptir. Darul Harp'te tanınmayan insanlar yani İslam’ı kesin bir şekilde bilinmeyen insanlar, bu dar'da mevcut olanların çoğunluğunun hükmünü alır.
Bu Ülkelerde İslam şeriatı uygulanmadığına göre demek ki bu ülkede olan insanların çoğu Müslüman değildir.
Bu ülkedeki tanımadığımız insanların çoğunluğuna göre hükümleri Ağlabuzzanla kafirdir.Ama tanıdığımız insanların durumuna göre hüküm veriyoruz. Kafirse kafir, Müslüman’sa Müslüman hükmü veriyoruz.
 
Cephetulnusra dediğin gurup, akidesi belli olan bir guruptur.
Yani tanımadığımız kişiler değildir.Aynı İhvanı Müslim cemaati gibidir, aynı selefi ve tebdil cemaati gibidir.. Bu cemaatlerin inancı bilinmektedir. Bu cemaatler hala tevhidi sağlamış değiller. Allah'ın istediği Tevhidi Ve İslam’ın şartlarını sağlamış değiller.
 
Örneğin; Cephetulnusra El kaide örgütünün bir dalıdır. El kaide örgütüne tabi olan bir daldır. Bu örgütün akidesi bellidir ve genel olarak şöyledir; Daha önceleri İslam devleti olan ve sonra Allah c.c hükümleriyle hükmedilmeyen devletlerin halklarını genel olarak Müslüman görüyorlar.
Tağutlara Müslüman diyenleri tekfir etmiyorlar.
Hakkını almak için tağutun mahkemesine başvuranları tekfir etmiyorlar.
Halkı, şirk olan konularda cehaletlerini mazeret sayıyorlar Demokrasiye oy vermek gibi.
Suudun şeyhleri, tağuta bağlı olan şeyhlerdir. İçlerinde tevhidini açık bir şekilde belli etmeyen şeyhler olabilir. Şirki ve küfrü açık olanların hükmü zaten bellidir. Fakat akidesi belli olmayanlara çoğunluğa göre hüküm veriyoruz.

Soru2: Kendini savunmak  amaciyla Tagutun mahkemesine giden kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ?

 
2.Cevap; Kendini savunmak için tağutun mahkemesine giden kişi tağuta muhakeme olmuştur ve böylece kafir-müşrik olmuştur,bu konuda nas muhkemdir.
Kendini savunmak için tağutun  mahkemesinin davetine icabet eden kişi tağuta muhakeme olmayı kabul etmiştir. Sadece tağuta şikâyet eden kişi tağuta muhakeme olmuş  değil, kendini müdafaa etmek için mahkemenin davetine  icabet  eden kişi de tağuta muhakeme olmuş sayılır.
Ancak açık bir şekilde muhakemeyi red ettikten sonra suçlamayı red ederse ve asla bundan sonra muhakemeye girdiğini anlaşılan bir hareket ve söz serf etmezse o zaman muhakeme olmuş sayılmaz.

 
Soru3 :Taguti systeme icin calisan , polis icin calisan , devlet dairesinde calisan , bakanlik yapan kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ?
 
3. Cevap; Tağuti sistem için çalışan,tağutun hakim olması için çalışan ve ayakta tutmak için çalışan kimse kafirdir. Polis de tağutun sistemini koruyan ayakta kalması için çalışan bir muessesedir. Bu görevde çalışan tağutun ayakta durması için çalışır.. Bakanlık yapan tağut için çalışır oda kafirdir. Devlet dairelerinde çalışanlar durumuna göre ve yaptığı işe göre hüküm alır. Eğer bu görevde çalışan kimse küfür işlerse kafir olur.
 
Soru4: Büyük sirkte , herhangi bir zamanda ve herhangi bir yerde herhangi bir sahisa istisna yapilmismidir ?
 
4.Cevap;Büyük şirkte istisna olmaz. İkrah altında olmadan Büyük şirk işleyen kimse müşriktir. Bu konuda istisna söz konusu değildir.
 
Soru5: Islam dinin Aslinda cehalet mazaret sayilir mi ?
 
5.Cevap; İslam dininin aslında cehalet mazeret değildir. ve bu konuda zaten kitabımız vardır.Büyük şirkte cehalet mazeret değildir adlı kitabımızı okumanızı tavsiye ederim
 
Soru6:  Soru 1 ile 3 arasinda meslelerde duraklayan kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ? Kisaca cevaplar verebilirsinz ve bozuk ingilizcem icin sizden özür diliyorum.
 
Cevap; Darul harpte yaşayan ve tanımadığı kişiler hakkında Müslüman hükmü veren kişi kâfir olur. Duraklayan yani hiçbir hüküm vermeyen, ne İslam nede kafir hükmünü tanıyıncaya kadar vermeyen kimse kafir olmaz.Fakat küfrü belli olan kişileri, Örneğin; Cephetun-nusra,Suudi Arabistan şeyhleri,Hamas cemaati gibi küfrü belli olan kişilerin hükmü konusunda yani kafir hükmü verme konusunda duraklayan kimse kafir olur. Tağutun sistemi için çalışan kimseler hakkında duraklayan kimse Müslüman değildir. Aynı şekilde polisler hakkında duraklayan kimse Müslüman değildir.Tağuti devlette bakanlık görevi yapanlara küfür hükmü vermekte duraklayan Müslüman değildir.sorularınıza vereceğimiz cevaplar kısaca bu kadardır.siz hangi dilde konuşuyorsunuz, rahat konuşabileceğiniz dil hangisidir?

 
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« Yanıtla #7 : 11 Şubat 2014, 19:24:45 »


 
1: The Islamic ruling for states and countries which are not governed by the Islamic Sharia is Darul-Harb (Abode of War).   In Darul-Harb people who we don't know meaning we don't know their Islam they are given the ruling of the majority of  the people who live in Darul-Harb. 
Most of the people living in these countries are not Muslim due to the fact that these countries are not governed by the Sharia.
Individuals living in these countries who we do not know are given the ruling according to the majority of people living there and according to what is most likely (في أغلب الظن); therefore we give them the ruling of Kafir (non-Muslim). However, individuals we know are given a ruling according to the situation (their Aqeeda).  If  his Aqeeda is incorrect he will be given the ruling of Kafir but if his Aqeeda is correct his ruling is Muslim.
 
The group Jabhat-un Nusra that you have mentioned, is a group whose Aqeeda is well known.
That is to say they are not a people we are not aware of,  they are just like Ikhwan-ul Muslimeen, Salafi jamiah, Tabdeel jami’ah and so on.  The Aqeeda of these groups is very well known, they have not yet understood and implemented Tawheed into their lives. They have not yet understood and implemented the conditions of Tawheed that Allah requires from them.
 
For example, Jabhat-un Nusra is under the command of Al-Qaeda and is one of their many branches. The Aqeeda of this organisation is well known and in general terms is as follows:  they generally view the population of countries which were Islamic states before but are not now ruled by the Islamic Sharia as Muslims. They don’t make Takfeer (to give the ruling of non-Muslim) on the ones who say that the Taghut (false deities) are Muslims. Nor do they make Takfeer on the ones who submit to the courts of Taghut to get their rights. They consider that ignorance is an excuse for the population in matters of major shirk, such as taking part in democratic elections.

The Saudi scholars are tied to the Taghut, amongst them are scholars  who do not make their Aqeeda apparent. The ruling is clear for those whose Kufr and Shrik is in the open and for those whose Aqeeda is not clear we give them a ruling based on the majority. 

In this, we are on the same Aqeeda
 
Soru2: Kendini savunmak  amaciyla Tagutun mahkemesine giden kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ?
 
Answer 2: The person who accepts the summons of a court in order to go and defend himself has submitted to the judgement of Taghut.  Only the person who makes a complaint to Taghut has not submitted to the court of Taghut. However, the one who accepts the summons of a court in order to go and defend himself has submitted to the judgement of Taghut. Conversely, if a person openly rejects the court and then rejects the claims against himself and then does not perform any actions and does not make any statements which indicates he has accepted the court then he will have not submitted to the court.

Here there is a risk, the main thing that he showed no heart weakness, and would not affect their decision.
 
Soru3 :Taguti systeme icin calisan , polis icin calisan , devlet dairesinde calisan , bakanlik yapan kisinin hükmü nedir sizce ?
 
Answer 3: The person who works for the cause of  the Taghut system or who works in order that  the Taghut system obtains dominance or who works to keep the Taghut system in power is a Kafir. The police is an institute which works to protect and keep in power the system of Taghut. Whoever, works in this position does so to uphold the position of the Taghut system.  Whoever takes a role as governmental minister works for the cause of Taghut and thus also becomes a Kafir. As for those who work in the various government jobs are given a ruling according to the situation and the job they do; if the person does something which is Kufr as part of their job, then he becomes Kafir.

Here well stop,because it is not very clear who is meant by the goverment jobs,I will give some examples of govrmnt  jobs
Tax Inspector,Cook in army or police
Cleaner in Tagut systems,police or parlaiment
Worker in state-factory for production of bread for Tagut.
Builders and superintendent courthouses, who work in the state organization of construction.
Simple Soldier in army..
employee of Municipality
Doctor in army
and all this without the things of kufr
what is hukm what each of them?



4,5,6 Answers is correct.


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Hebrew,Russian,English,understand turkish but badly, i need some practice

And one more question,istishfa,if muslim come to the grave of the righteous, and say, "Do dua to Allah for me" hukm of this?
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« Yanıtla #8 : 02 Mart 2014, 00:53:08 »

1: The Islamic ruling for states and countries which are not governed by the Islamic Sharia is Darul-Harb (Abode of War).   In Darul-Harb people who we don't know meaning we don't know their Islam they are given the ruling of the majority of  the people who live in Darul-Harb. 
Most of the people living in these countries are not Muslim due to the fact that these countries are not governed by the Sharia.
Individuals living in these countries who we do not know are given the ruling according to the majority of people living there and according to what is most likely (في أغلب الظن); therefore we give them the ruling of Kafir (non-Muslim). However, individuals we know are given a ruling according to the situation (their Aqeeda).  If  his Aqeeda is incorrect he will be given the ruling of Kafir but if his Aqeeda is correct his ruling is Muslim.
 
The group Jabhat-un Nusra that you have mentioned, is a group whose Aqeeda is well known.
That is to say they are not a people we are not aware of,  they are just like Ikhwan-ulMuslimeen, Salafijamiah, Tabdeeljami’ah and so on.  The Aqeeda of these groups is very well known, they have not yet understood and implemented Tawheed into their lives. They have not yet understood and implemented the conditions of Tawheed that Allah requires from them.
 
For example, Jabhat-un Nusra is under the command of Al-Qaeda and is one of their many branches. The Aqeeda of this organisation is well known and in general terms is as follows:  they generally view the population of countries which were Islamic states before but are not now ruled by the Islamic Sharia as Muslims. They don’t make Takfeer (to give the ruling of non-Muslim) on the ones who say that the Taghut (false deities) are Muslims. Nor do they make Takfeer on the ones who submit to the courts of Taghut to get their rights. They consider that ignorance is an excuse for the population in matters of major shirk, such as taking part in democratic elections.

The Saudi scholars are tied to the Taghut, amongst them are scholars  who do not make their Aqeeda apparent. The ruling is clear for those whose Kufr and Shrik is in the open and for those whose Aqeeda is not clear we give them a ruling based on the majority. 


In this, we are on the same Aqeeda
 
Soru2: Kendinisavunmak  amaciylaTagutunmahkemesinegidenkisininhükmünedirsizce ?

Answer 2: The person who accepts the summons of a court in order to go and defend himself has submitted to the judgement of Taghut.  Only the person who makes a complaint to Taghut has not submitted to the court of Taghut. However, the one who accepts the summons of a court in order to go and defend himself has submitted to the judgement of Taghut. Conversely, if a person openly rejects the court and then rejects the claims against himself and then does not perform any actions and does not make any statements which indicates he has accepted the court then he will have not submitted to the court.

Here there is a risk, the main thing that he showed no heart weakness, and would not affect their decision.

What is the risk you refer to?
Off course he must not show that he is weak in the heart but this is not enough, rather he must declare that he has not come to seek judgement from them.
You said: ‘and would not affect their decision’.I do not understand, what do you mean by this condition?
He went to the court to defend himself without seeking judgement. When he went to the court he declared to them that he did not come to seek judgement from them and that he does not accept their judgement so they do not think he has come to seek their judgement. Therefore, whether his action affects or does not affect their judgement it has no connection between him and their judgement. His intention is to defend himself without seeking judgement from Taghut in order to avoid an oppressive judgment against him. There is nothing forbidden in this, meaning his action does not equate to him seeking a judgement from Taghut. The intention to defend oneself against oppression, itself is not Kufr nor Haram if it is achieved without committing Kufr or Haram.


Soru3 :Tagutisystemeicincalisan , polis icincalisan , devlet dairesinde calisan , bakanlik yapan kisinin hükmünedir sizce ?

Answer 3: The person who works for the cause of  the Taghut system or who works in order that  the Taghut system obtains dominance or who works to keep the Taghut system in power is a Kafir. The police is an institute which works to protect and keep in power the system of Taghut. Whoever, works in this position does so to uphold the position of the Taghut system.  Whoever takes a role as governmental minister works for the cause of Taghut and thus also becomes a Kafir. As for those who work in the various government jobs are given a ruling according to the situation and the job they do; if the person does something which is Kufr as part of their job, then he becomes Kafir.


Here well stop,because it is not very clear who is meant by the govermentjobs,I will give some examples of govrmnt  jobs

Answer: We have already explained what the kufr jobs are and their conditions.


Tax Inspector,Cook in army or police

Answer: the tax collector is a Kafir because he assists an action of Kufr.


Cleaner in Tagutsystems,police or parliament

Answer: The cleaner for the police and parliament is a Kafir because he has assisted an action of Kufr. However, not every cleaner working in organizations which are attached to Tagut is a Kafir.  For example, a cleaner working in the municipality or in a government hospital or in governmental establishments which serve the public and not Taghut, is not a Kafir.

Worker in state-factory for production of bread for Tagut.

Answer: The worker in a governmental factory for the production of bread does not become a Kafir if this factory does not have a direct connection to the kufr acts that the Taghut carries out. For example, if the worker supplies the bread to someone who commits kufr and the bread directly aids them in their kufr, then the bread maker will have become a Kafir. That is to say, if he gives bread to a person committing Kufr then he will become a kafir.

Builders and superintendent courthouses, who work in the state organization of construction.

Simple Soldier in army..

Answer: Every soldier, whether he appears to be a regular soldier or not, who we do not know is a Kafir from the army of Taghut, and whoever is from the army of Taghut is a Kafir. However, a Muslim who we know of his Islam and he has entered the army of Taghut to accomplish an Islamic objective without committing Kufr or Shrik, then in this case we do not give the ruling of Kufr. If we know of his religion and his objectives for being in the presence of the Taghut army does not involve Kufr and Shrik.
According to us the reason of Kufr here is not because he looks like a soldier in the presence of the Taghut army but rather it is if he undertakes actions which make him a soldier of Taghut in reality.


employee of Municipality

Answer: Regarding a worker for the municipality, if he does not commit Kufr then he is not a Kafir merely for working for the Municipality. The reason for this is because the municipality is an establishment to serve the people.

Doctor in army

The answer: If a doctor in the army medically treats a man who commits Kufr to help him in his action of Kufr he will become a Kafir. However, if he is carrying out his compulsory military service which he has been forced to and he does not medically treat someone committing Kufr. But only treats those who do not commit Kufr from the soldiers who do not practice Kufr while he treats them then he will not become a kafir. If he is working in the army as a doctor by his own choice he will become a kafir because he has voluntarily become a part of the Taghut army. Therefore, anyone who enlists into the army of Taghut even if he is a cook will become a Kafir because he will be a soldier of Taghut by his own choice.

and all this without the things of kufr
what is hukm what each of them?



4,5,6 Answers is correct.


This is our answers to your questions in brief. Which languages can you speak, which language can speak the easiest in?

Hebrew,Russian,English,understandturkish but badly, i need some practice


Answer: Where did you learn Hebrew and where do you live?

And one more question,istishfa,ifmuslim come to the grave of the righteous, and say, "Do dua to Allah for me" hukm of this?

Answer: Going to the grave of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, and asking him to make Dua to Allah for himself is permitted by many scholars of this Ummah. Some scholars considered this act recommendable whereas other considered it to be a bidah and an action which can lead to Shrik.  We consider it to be bidah and an action which can lead to shrik because the Sahabah (companions of Prophet Muhammad) never did such an act.  We also consider those who consider it to be major shrik to be ignorant extremists who do not understand the book of Allah and the sunnah of his messenger peace be upon him, and do not understand the statements of the scholars. Considering this act to be major Shrik is opposed to the Aqeedah of the righteous predecessors.Ibn taymiyyah, Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahaab, and the recognized scholars of Najed  did not say that  requesting Dua from the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, from besides his grave is major Shrik. Therefore, whoever concludes from these scholars that this action is major shrik has a serious misunderstanding and is not following the entirety of what they wrote on this issue.

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« Yanıtla #9 : 07 Mart 2014, 22:14:46 »

Here there is a risk, the main thing that he showed no heart weakness, and would not affect their decision.

What is the risk you refer to?
Off course he must not show that he is weak in the heart but this is not enough, rather he must declare that he has not come to seek judgement from them.
You said: ‘and would not affect their decision’.I do not understand, what do you mean by this condition?
He went to the court to defend himself without seeking judgement. When he went to the court he declared to them that he did not come to seek judgement from them and that he does not accept their judgement so they do not think he has come to seek their judgement. Therefore, whether his action affects or does not affect their judgement it has no connection between him and their judgement. His intention is to defend himself without seeking judgement from Taghut in order to avoid an oppressive judgment against him. There is nothing forbidden in this, meaning his action does not equate to him seeking a judgement from Taghut. The intention to defend oneself against oppression, itself is not Kufr nor Haram if it is achieved without committing Kufr or Haram.

We were a bit misunderstood each other,Sorry, I'm probably wrong explained, I mean thats "His intention is to defend himself without seeking judgement from Taghut"


Soru3 :Tagutisystemeicincalisan , polis icincalisan , devlet dairesinde calisan , bakanlik yapan kisinin hükmünedir sizce ?

Answer 3: The person who works for the cause of  the Taghut system or who works in order that  the Taghut system obtains dominance or who works to keep the Taghut system in power is a Kafir. The police is an institute which works to protect and keep in power the system of Taghut. Whoever, works in this position does so to uphold the position of the Taghut system.  Whoever takes a role as governmental minister works for the cause of Taghut and thus also becomes a Kafir. As for those who work in the various government jobs are given a ruling according to the situation and the job they do; if the person does something which is Kufr as part of their job, then he becomes Kafir.


Here well stop,because it is not very clear who is meant by the govermentjobs,I will give some examples of govrmnt  jobs

Answer: We have already explained what the kufr jobs are and their conditions.


Tax Inspector,Cook in army or police

Answer: the tax collector is a Kafir because he assists an action of Kufr.


Cleaner in Tagutsystems,police or parliament

Answer: The cleaner for the police and parliament is a Kafir because he has assisted an action of Kufr. However, not every cleaner working in organizations which are attached to Tagut is a Kafir.  For example, a cleaner working in the municipality or in a government hospital or in governmental establishments which serve the public and not Taghut, is not a Kafir.

Worker in state-factory for production of bread for Tagut.

Answer: The worker in a governmental factory for the production of bread does not become a Kafir if this factory does not have a direct connection to the kufr acts that the Taghut carries out. For example, if the worker supplies the bread to someone who commits kufr and the bread directly aids them in their kufr, then the bread maker will have become a Kafir. That is to say, if he gives bread to a person committing Kufr then he will become a kafir.

Builders and superintendent courthouses, who work in the state organization of construction.

Simple Soldier in army..

Answer: Every soldier, whether he appears to be a regular soldier or not, who we do not know is a Kafir from the army of Taghut, and whoever is from the army of Taghut is a Kafir. However, a Muslim who we know of his Islam and he has entered the army of Taghut to accomplish an Islamic objective without committing Kufr or Shrik, then in this case we do not give the ruling of Kufr. If we know of his religion and his objectives for being in the presence of the Taghut army does not involve Kufr and Shrik.
According to us the reason of Kufr here is not because he looks like a soldier in the presence of the Taghut army but rather it is if he undertakes actions which make him a soldier of Taghut in reality.

Answer: If he is working in the army as a doctor by his own choice he will become a kafir because he has voluntarily become a part of the Taghut army. Therefore, anyone who enlists into the army of Taghut even if he is a cook will become a Kafir because he will be a soldier of Taghut by his own choice.

I dont understand , army of tagut is it kufr or not? "who we do not know is a Kafir from the army of Taghut," Kafir by istishab? or explicit Kufr?
Sorry, here i dont understand you, if you know that it is Kufr, why are you doing exceptions?? only ikrah is a exception, what you mean by "his own choise"?
and if it is explicit Kufr, then muslim who we know, who will be work there ,will become a kafir



Answer: Where did you learn Hebrew and where do you live?

I live in israel

And one more question,istishfa,ifmuslim come to the grave of the righteous, and say, "Do dua to Allah for me" hukm of this?

Answer: Going to the grave of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, and asking him to make Dua to Allah for himself is permitted by many scholars of this Ummah. Some scholars considered this act recommendable whereas other considered it to be a bidah and an action which can lead to Shrik.  We consider it to be bidah and an action which can lead to shrik because the Sahabah (companions of Prophet Muhammad) never did such an act.  We also consider those who consider it to be major shrik to be ignorant extremists who do not understand the book of Allah and the sunnah of his messenger peace be upon him, and do not understand the statements of the scholars. Considering this act to be major Shrik is opposed to the Aqeedah of the righteous predecessors.Ibn taymiyyah, Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahaab, and the recognized scholars of Najed  did not say that  requesting Dua from the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, from besides his grave is major Shrik. Therefore, whoever concludes from these scholars that this action is major shrik has a serious misunderstanding and is not following the entirety of what they wrote on this issue.

You're right
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« Yanıtla #10 : 24 Nisan 2014, 22:18:58 »

Salam aleykum
I wanted to ask, have someone an article or a book about istishfa? possible in all languages, better on english russian or tirkish
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